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Society's View of the Female DJ

DjNicole 8:26 PM - 29 November, 2013
Sadly I think, like most of you may, that the female DJ world is very poorly represented. Often it's full of girls admired for their looks more so than skills, pressing play, using auto sync, and looking just so darn cute. Being a female DJ myself, it's sad to think what our society really thinks of us as. Of course there are still many great women in the industry that have true talent but everywhere you look the female DJ is noticed mostly for her "show". You see it everywhere in advertisement. The crazy part is that we even give more leniency to the girls. Saying things like, she's not bad for a girl DJ.

New to the forums, I thought I'd strike up what you guys think about the subject and sorry if it's been talked about before, first time post ;) Out of curiosity, I'd really like to see what the fellow female DJs have gone through or what their opinion of the matter is. I've always found it interesting.
eugguy 8:38 PM - 29 November, 2013
It must be tough being a female dj at times. However, there are also advantages as well. You are much more marketable as a female dj. If you have the whole package...skills, personality, knowledge, looks...you are probably able to get more gigs and be taken seriously. It is somewhat assumed that most dj's are male, and most hairdressers are female...however, it is not always the case. If you are good, you are good. Regardless of how much weight anyone else's stereotypes may have, you need skills at the end of the day. If you sell yourself short by taking your clothes off, etc...then I feel that you haven't developed the skills of a proper dj. You are not a "disk jockey" at this point but a "dick jockey." People say you aren't bad for a girl dj only because there are not enough legitimate female djs at this point in time.
PopRoXxX 9:02 PM - 29 November, 2013
I think girl/women DJs that have to take off their clothes and basically be naked when they perform shows lack of skill right there. Yeah, you may be smokin' hot with a boob job and tight body, fist pumping, turning a couple knobs, etc - but if that's all you're selling you're what we're talking about. Look at DJ Annalyze - freaking amazing DJ, stays clothed and makes a lot of turntable jocks look up to her skills. Do it right and you won't be looking back saying "well that was a fun short-lived moment". You'll still be rocking it the right way while they're looking for their next sugar daddy.
Club Ample 9:28 PM - 29 November, 2013
You make valid points Nicole... Show me an unattractive female DJing in a top club... and I'll show you a DJ with some serious skills. Most of the female DJs I see are well above average looks...and I think most of them get into places because of their looks. Or they have a boyfriend who's a DJ that actually is good.. and she rides his ..... coat tails.
That being said, I respect anyone with skill... and being a successful DJ nowadays is more than just your technical DJing skills. It's marketing and how many people can you bring in. Sometimes thats actually a skill.. and sometimes its being lucky enough to fall into the "hottie" category. In this regard an attractive female is going to be more marketable and probably have a bigger following simply because she is a hot piece of a$$. Guys will support her because shes hot.. girls will support her because shes a female in a male dominated industry.

If youre a club owner who has a choice between average joe looking DJ that can scratch while standing on his head and doesnt bring in any significant crowd or DJ Smokin Hot Female with below average skills that brings in 100 people...hes going with Smokin Hot Female.

To the point of WHY there are so few female DJs... that's a question I would love to hear some peoples opinion. If you think about it, female like dancing much more than men do... so why wouldnt they want to DJ?
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:07 PM - 29 November, 2013
....i just came for the pics....pics please
Thundercat 1:16 AM - 30 November, 2013
From the inside of the industry, it makes me angry at times to know that all it takes is da boobies to get a gig in a lot of places. And most boys like them (da boobies) and will follow their package around trying to get to them. But I also know it is harder for female dj's to earn the same respect from their peers that their male counterparts get. A bit of a double edged sword. Easier bookings but less likely to be taken seriously as an artist.

I know I am skeptical about female DJ's and stereotype them in my mind. I expect them to be bad. And I expect that same school-girl smile and oops-giggle when they make mistakes. It is what I have been conditioned to expect. If the mix is clean I assume it's faked until proven otherwise. I know that's messed up, but it is what I see more often than not.

On the other end of the spectrum, if a female DJ is really killing it she will have my utmost support. I will hear guys talking about wow a girl dj, she's so fine, etc and my reaction is to say she ain't a girl dj, she's just a f***ing badass DJ regardless of what's happening underneath the clothes.

...so basically I'm all over the place on the subject.
the_black_one 1:22 AM - 30 November, 2013
Soooooo where are the pics ???

Nm nh
DJ Michael Basic 2:09 AM - 30 November, 2013
It definitely goes both ways. There are a few "top" girl DJs who are mediocre at best and aren't great looking...if they were guys, they'd be "just another DJ" and even though they don't market themselves like the sexy playmate DJs, they get a lot of shine because they are girls.

There are also very talented girl DJs, some of whom are really attractive. The majority of girl DJs, however, are as described above...scantily clad, big boob jobs, not much talent at all, some working female DJs can't really even work the equipment (heh heh.)

Bottom line, though, girl DJs are definitely more marketable...and I've always joked with my girlfriend that if I taught her to DJ, once she learned the basics (pun intended) I'd make more money managing her than I do playing out myself.
the_black_one 2:15 AM - 30 November, 2013
Pics basic !!!!!

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DJ Michael Basic 3:01 AM - 30 November, 2013
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Pics basic !!!!!

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DJ Remy USA 3:10 AM - 30 November, 2013
DJ Shortee is the female DJ Goddess look her up if you Dont know
Mr. Goodkat 3:47 AM - 30 November, 2013
there are some really good ones and really bad ones. much like men djs.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:51 AM - 30 November, 2013
I'm just gonna leave this right hurr - > Watchwww.youtube.com
Code:E 5:40 AM - 30 November, 2013
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I'm just gonna leave this right hurr - > Watchwww.youtube.com

WOW!
What is that sampler she is using?
hologram 6:13 AM - 30 November, 2013
Use to be a time when a female DJ had to be three times as badass as a male DJ to even get a chance. How times have changed, but the Skilled ones still have the same problem.
Jiglo 1:45 PM - 30 November, 2013
I think you've gotta break up the DJing scene into different segments. In some segments it's all about raw talent getting you to the top and obviously using the right connections and keeping the right attitude to get and keep you there. I saw this in the UK house music scene of the late 80's early 90's, then the DnB scene here in the UK. The people with the talent made their names regardless of sex, at least that's how it's always seemed to me.

It's just less females bothered to save up, buy the turntables and mixers, spend months/years learning how to mix properly and possibly developing other skills depending on their goals, along with carting the records around to parties to make a name for themselves, instead, just being content to be a girlfriend of the DJ who did have to do all that shit.

Now that anyone can be a mix DJ, thanks to cheap new tech making the transition to the top that much easier and lighter, I'm sure good looks plays more of a part as there's far more DJ's around and promoters can be a lot pickier re looks, especially if you want to play the big clubs of beautiful people in Ibiza etc and i'm sure that swings both ways.
skinnyguy 8:02 PM - 30 November, 2013
i'm gonna get breast implants and see if that improves my chances of getting gigs...
the_black_one 11:35 PM - 30 November, 2013
Lmfao!!!

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djkurve 11:56 PM - 30 November, 2013
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....i just came for the pics....pics please



LOL! Was waiting for you to comment.
phonze 1:05 AM - 1 December, 2013
I'll be honest, my perception of them is that…majority of them are really awful. But the ones that are good, are really fuckin good. Like ten times better then the average DJ good. It's like there's no in between lol.
DjNicole 2:40 AM - 1 December, 2013
Nice to see what you guys think about it although I'm still waiting for some of the girls to reply. I'd have to agree with most of you too. This could go both ways and I've seen it way too much with the guys. A lot of the time all it takes is some swag, good looks, and attitude. They could be train wrecking but still bobbing their head and playing it off like they're the shit lol.
dj_soo 4:00 AM - 1 December, 2013
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I'm still waiting for some of the girls to reply.


You're going to be waiting for a long time. I think there was maybe one regular female poster on here and I haven't seen her post in a while.

There are great female djs out there - some actively try to avoid using their sexuality, some realize it's an edge like anything else and use it, but still rock.

It's no longer just girls now tho - lots of shitty dude djs are using image to gain traction - only instead of tits, it's masks or cake.
the_black_one 5:14 AM - 1 December, 2013
paris will reply soon enough ....... LMFAO!!!!!!


NM NH
skinnyguy 5:52 AM - 1 December, 2013
we probably chased all the ladies away.

esp shady lady.
DjNicole 6:00 AM - 1 December, 2013
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It's no longer just girls now tho - lots of shitty dude djs are using image to gain traction - only instead of tits, it's masks or cake.


I'm glad one of you guys actually admit to that lol. It just bugs the heck out of me when anybody thinks them self highly without having the talent to back it up. As for the response from the girls, I didn't realize it was that rare. I guess we can only hope for now.
 6 7:32 AM - 1 December, 2013
Society's view of the DJ in general sucks. Gender should be irrelevant. If you think women are treated different, is because you yourself treat them differently. If you are a good DJ, I will let you know. If you need practice, I will let you know. I don't care what gender you are.

nm
Code:E 10:46 AM - 1 December, 2013
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I'm still waiting for some of the girls to reply.


You're going to be waiting for a long time. I think there was maybe one regular female poster on here and I haven't seen her post in a while.

There are great female djs out there - some actively try to avoid using their sexuality, some realize it's an edge like anything else and use it, but still rock.

It's no longer just girls now tho - lots of shitty dude djs are using image to gain traction - only instead of tits, it's masks or cake.

Yep.
RANDYG 4:12 PM - 1 December, 2013
She is pretty good too >>> Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Aries (UK) 9:24 AM - 22 February, 2014
Hi guys, and thank you DJ Nicole for opening this discussion. I'm an Afrobeat/fusion music DJ (obviously female - no pun intended) which is completely a different ball game as on genre which is making a gradual development in the UK but in Africa certainly the biggest market. My experience has been mostly positive. In the space of 18 months I've managed to play in Africa, and a few counties in Europe as well as a few cool clubs and events in London. Bare in mind I've practiced the skills for months in my bedroom, been on local radio stations, family and friends gatherings before taking to the big stage.

The most interesting thing I've noticed is that I tend to get more DJ work abroad than in the UK, through my own direct bookings. I'm not with an agency or manager.

Already the in the UK, the Afrobeat scene is small but still saturated with mainly DJs of male-African origin so that's another battle I have to squeeze in as I'm the only one. Now bare in mind there are a lot of rubbish afrobeat DJs too who are men. The amount of complaints I get from punters who say "Aries get on the flipping decks and show him how it's done" all I can do is sympathise as he's trying! The most important thing is how well you play, knowing your catalogue, network, engaging with the crowd and knowing your market and value. I'm always professional because the music industry is quite small in the UK so I keep my head up high. I must admit I do like to look good, it adds in a classy and trendy way and doesn't hurt to get the perks i.e free make up, products, clothes, shoes and media attention. But overall the music reflects me. Also, just don't go in the notion of competing. Enjoy it and sustain this profession as a business.

I'm still on that journey but so far I haven't had any derogatory remarks or comments from male punters. Funny enough it's mostly women who are surprised I'm a DJ! The men love it! The only negative experience I've had is when a silly manager undervalued and underestimated my profile - he wanted me to play for free! I politely declined and said no. What an insult! I did feel it was a bit of a sexist move there because I already knew the budget details for the event. I'm being flown to international cities to play for a very healthy fee, flown and get accommodated in decent hotels as well as escorted and even given expenses! No point - only if it's charity (they even pay me, don't worry I'm not that money hungry, I do discounts for them) Now in London it's different and I've accepted that. So I rather not stress for London gigs and play where people want me. I'm even off to Dubai soon!

Plus there are more female DJs, it's just people don't know and more need to start marketing themselves out of the 'urban' or 'single-genre' box which is why they're not as popular and it hinders them. I want to be as universal as possible whilst still sticking to my main thing - Afrofusion.

The world is bigger than your local city, there are plenty of gaps to fill, and I believe playing what's different really makes you stick out. I do mash ups with some popular African hits with some popular commercial hits and that's what gets the crowd pumping. Seeing the crowd satisfaction, the promoters going crazy for me and inspiring other aspiring DJs male or female is a high for me.

Apologies for the 'shameless plug' if you would like to hear more about Afrofusion, check out my Soundcloud mixes: www.soundcloud.com

I wish you all the best to all DJs who aim to be successful. Believe and you shall receive :)

X
the_black_one 10:09 AM - 22 February, 2014
I stoped reading after " 18 months"


Nm nh
DJ Aries (UK) 11:38 AM - 22 February, 2014
Sorry, (the black one) what is that suppose to mean?
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:10 PM - 22 February, 2014
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Sorry, (the black one) what is that suppose to mean?


Aries trust me...don't feed the troll.
DJ Aries (UK) 3:51 PM - 22 February, 2014
Thank you DJ Val-BKNY11203 just checked out the troll's previous comments. Nothing relevant.

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Sorry, (the black one) what is that suppose to mean?


Aries trust me...don't feed the troll.
Logisticalstyles 4:55 PM - 22 February, 2014
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Sorry, (the black one) what is that suppose to mean?


Have you only been DJing for 18 months?
DJ Aries (UK) 5:00 PM - 22 February, 2014
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Sorry, (the black one) what is that suppose to mean?


Have you only been DJing for 18 months?


Professionally yes, but beforehand practising like a mad woman for about 8 months
Logisticalstyles 5:11 PM - 22 February, 2014
That's pretty amazing progress.
I think the black one was was making reference to the relatively short period of time that you have been DJing but yet have managed to go from a bedroom DJ to an international traveling DJ getting free make up, products, clothes, shoes and media attention. I'm sure there are other factors that aided in that progress such as location, networking skills, and having a niche market, but that just doesn't happen for the average guy DJ.
DJ Aries (UK) 5:25 PM - 22 February, 2014
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That's pretty amazing progress.
I think the black one was was making reference to the relatively short period of time that you have been DJing but yet have managed to go from a bedroom DJ to an international traveling DJ getting free make up, products, clothes, shoes and media attention. I'm sure there are other factors that aided in that progress such as location, networking skills, and having a niche market, but that just doesn't happen for the average guy DJ.


Thank you Logisticalstyles! You're absolutely right, I can imagine the eye-rolling but... Bare in mind I mentioned that on purpose and obviously it provoked a little comment. My career in music goes further than the decks. Been in the music industry for actually much longer - prior to Djing, I was a music consultant so that developed my journey to start DJing as I've worked with the promotion of African music in a different capacity. I decided to focus on the DJing as a way to channel my creativity and music knowledge in a territory that has hardly been touched - particularly by African 'female' music professionals (I hate to tag but just making a point). Thats my story :)
Logisticalstyles 6:27 PM - 22 February, 2014
Now that makes sense. I figured there had to be more to the story.
the_black_one 6:56 PM - 22 February, 2014
Makes sense now.

Nm nh
Mr. Goodkat 7:45 PM - 22 February, 2014
afrobeat is under represented in the states. white folks too white.
hologram 8:31 PM - 22 February, 2014
nice to see.I like now that Many Male DJs are stepping up to support Female DJs when the BS starts.
 6 10:03 PM - 22 February, 2014
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nice to see.I like now that Many Male DJs are stepping up to support Female DJs when the BS starts.


They just want to PINHB

nm
the_black_one 10:42 PM - 22 February, 2014
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nice to see.I like now that Many Male DJs are stepping up to support Female DJs when the BS starts.


They just want to PINHB

nm


lmfao ....

p. s. the avatar is priceless

nm nh
DJ Remy USA 1:54 PM - 23 February, 2014
My girl friend is not a DJ but all she has to do is say she's a DJ and without much questioning she gets booked I show up and DJ she calls out and says she can't make it. I get paid

Moral is female DJs get booked waaay easier than guys cause everyone wants to sell sex.

Congrats to you tho DJ Aries don't let them use and abuse you cause there is always DJ waiting to take your spot. Respect your hustle
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:34 PM - 23 February, 2014
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My girl friend is not a DJ but all she has to do is say she's a DJ and without much questioning she gets booked I show up and DJ she calls out and says she can't make it. I get paid


Now THAT is how you hustle the system...
phonze 3:44 PM - 23 February, 2014
lol that's awesome
DJ Remy USA 1:27 PM - 24 February, 2014
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My girl friend is not a DJ but all she has to do is say she's a DJ and without much questioning she gets booked I show up and DJ she calls out and says she can't make it. I get paid


Now THAT is how you hustle the system...


Dude you be surprise how many fall for it these days. She took a pic next to some turntables and got like 100 likes but really it was just me but hey people come out and she just says oh I just got off the decks my man is on now when she does come out. In all honesty I am teaching her cause eventually I do want her to know how to spin
dj jamalot 1:47 PM - 24 February, 2014
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My girl friend is not a DJ but all she has to do is say she's a DJ and without much questioning she gets booked I show up and DJ she calls out and says she can't make it. I get paid


Now THAT is how you hustle the system...


Dude you be surprise how many fall for it these days. She took a pic next to some turntables and got like 100 likes but really it was just me but hey people come out and she just says oh I just got off the decks my man is on now when she does come out. In all honesty I am teaching her cause eventually I do want her to know how to spin

So are you saying you need her to get work??? That doesn't say much for You...
DJ Remy USA 2:39 PM - 24 February, 2014
Here we go always someone with something to say about anothers hustles. Hey man team work makes the dream work.
dj jamalot 2:42 PM - 24 February, 2014
All I'm saying is if you need a female to get you work that's not saying much for Your credibility... That's only gonna work for so long...
ral 3:19 PM - 24 February, 2014
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:32 PM - 24 February, 2014
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My girl friend is not a DJ but all she has to do is say she's a DJ and without much questioning she gets booked I show up and DJ she calls out and says she can't make it. I get paid


Now THAT is how you hustle the system...


Dude you be surprise how many fall for it these days. She took a pic next to some turntables and got like 100 likes but really it was just me but hey people come out and she just says oh I just got off the decks my man is on now when she does come out. In all honesty I am teaching her cause eventually I do want her to know how to spin

So are you saying you need her to get work??? That doesn't say much for You...


Damn, shots fired...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:34 PM - 24 February, 2014
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Here we go always someone with something to say about anothers hustles. Hey man team work makes the dream work.


Hell, I'm not mad at you.

If you're getting those gigs IN ADDITION to what you normally get, then ride that wagon until the wheels fall off...(Pun Intended)
DJ GaFFle 5:07 PM - 24 February, 2014
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...are we being punk'ed?

I'm trying to figure out if that's a gold Submariner with a jubilee bracelet? (nm)
DJ Art Pumpin Payne 5:43 PM - 24 February, 2014


Cute but that controller "cheapens " her....

: )

She'd be banging if those were turntables or CDJs
 6 6:07 PM - 24 February, 2014
lol

nm
DJ Remy USA 7:19 PM - 24 February, 2014
clearly I have been working DJ prior to even having my current girl friend, plus I sort of use her as a booking agent these days. Its not such a bad idea to have someone else represent you in dealings. No I dont need her to get gigs but she wants to learn to DJ and I can make some money while teaching her its a win win.
Thundercat 10:23 PM - 24 February, 2014


I can tell you Nicole is the truth. Not THE TRUTH, but yeah she's real and she got skills. :)
DJxChris 12:24 AM - 25 February, 2014
Nicole is definitely real and has a lot of skill. She's come a long way since that controller pic.
DjNicole 12:26 AM - 25 February, 2014
I'm not frequent with the forums so sorry for not keeping up as much with the thread but yes I am real. I actually used Serato with the Denon system while transitioning to turntables. I was not always a turntable DJ and I've gained a lot of skill since then. One photo doesn't define a person. Also, thanks Thundercat for backing me up!
 6 12:32 AM - 25 February, 2014
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I'm not frequent with the forums so sorry for not keeping up as much with the thread but yes I am real. I actually used Serato with the Denon system while transitioning to turntables. I was not always a turntable DJ and I've gained a lot of skill since then. One photo doesn't define a person. Also, thanks Thundercat for backing me up!


Glad to see you changed for the better.

nm
ral 3:46 PM - 25 February, 2014
cool - nice to see you around nicole
DJ VEE 4:36 PM - 25 February, 2014
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clearly I have been working DJ prior to even having my current girl friend, plus I sort of use her as a booking agent these days. Its not such a bad idea to have someone else represent you in dealings. No I dont need her to get gigs but she wants to learn to DJ and I can make some money while teaching her its a win win.


Hey, I'm gonna book you in my area, (This is just freakin genius.) you don't need to do anything. Maybe you can call that morning and cancel (insert excuse here), and throw out my name as a backup.
I do the gig, send you a cut (small of course), and everyone is happy, (well, maybe not the promoter, but I'm sure he's fucked somebody over at one point so, who cares).
Brilliant! LOL!
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:26 PM - 25 February, 2014
This thread is very misleading, it needs less talk and more viewing female djs
hologram 6:46 PM - 25 February, 2014
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This thread is very misleading, it needs less talk and more viewing female djs


We were just waiting for you….
 6 7:00 PM - 25 February, 2014
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This thread is very misleading, it needs less talk and more viewing female djs

hahaha
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:00 PM - 25 February, 2014
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This thread is very misleading, it needs less talk and more viewing female djs


We were just waiting for you….

Well im here, so bring on the female djs!
ral 7:18 PM - 25 February, 2014
some nice view here -

Audrey Napoleon
www.marieclaire.com

Chelsea Leyland
www.marieclaire.com

Rebecca & Fiona
www.marieclaire.com

Leigh Lezark
www.marieclaire.com
 6 7:21 PM - 25 February, 2014
What the fuck is Audrey Napoleon wearing?
www.marieclaire.com
nm
 6 7:22 PM - 25 February, 2014
Leigh...

Serato face. lol

www.marieclaire.com

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:29 PM - 25 February, 2014
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Leigh...

Serato face. lol

www.marieclaire.com

nm

Ima show her my seratOOO face
Mr. Goodkat 7:34 PM - 25 February, 2014
Mr. Goodkat 7:34 PM - 25 February, 2014
 6 8:17 PM - 25 February, 2014
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Serato face. lol

www.marieclaire.com

nm

Ima show her my seratOOO face


hahahaha

nm
Code:E 9:44 PM - 25 February, 2014

I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.
Thundercat 9:45 PM - 25 February, 2014
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Leigh...

Serato face. lol

www.marieclaire.com

nm

Ima show her my seratOOO face


OK that was funny. Loved that movie
Mr. Goodkat 11:21 PM - 25 February, 2014
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I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.


just seems like the overall branding and concept is so fucking wack.
Code:E 1:27 AM - 26 February, 2014
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I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.


just seems like the overall branding and concept is so fucking wack.

i dont disagree.
 6 2:05 AM - 26 February, 2014
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I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.


just seems like the overall branding and concept is so fucking wack.

i dont disagree.


I agree with not disagreeing.

nm
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:22 AM - 26 February, 2014
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I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.


just seems like the overall branding and concept is so fucking wack.

i dont disagree.


I agree with not disagreeing.

nm

agreed
the_black_one 2:56 AM - 26 February, 2014
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I have seen this girl a few times.... Not the best in the world (nobody is) but shes better than a lot of guys who think they are hot shit.


just seems like the overall branding and concept is so fucking wack.

i dont disagree.


I agree with not disagreeing.

nm

agreed


I agree with not disagreeing

nm nh
MPC O.G. 4:54 AM - 26 February, 2014
DJ Coco Chanel........Nice on the wheels, and FILLS out a pair of jeans.........
dj_soo 11:08 AM - 26 February, 2014


she's from my hometown. Never heard her DJ, but she definitely went the boob route...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:11 PM - 26 February, 2014
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DJ Coco Chanel........Nice on the wheels, and FILLS out a pair of jeans.........


Say that *ish again, they ain't hear you the FIRST TIME!

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Remy USA 7:30 PM - 26 February, 2014
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she's from my hometown. Never heard her DJ, but she definitely went the boob route...


she's kinda hot tho, yea she's selling sex but who isnt these days. Hell I changed my image to be a little more appealing to females since appealing to DJs dont really pay the bills. Got a hair cut took some new fotos getting my rico suave on...lol anyways. Her music isnt bad for the clubby type bubbly girls. She was in D.C last summer at the POV she had a decent set too.
hologram 11:58 PM - 26 February, 2014
Man or Woman. What's wrong with looking nice and/or appealing when you go play?
DjNicole 1:38 AM - 27 February, 2014
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Man or Woman. What's wrong with looking nice and/or appealing when you go play?


I think there's a point of looking put together and maybe dressing up a bit, then there's having your boobs and ass falling out of skimpy clothes. Maybe there's a rare chance that a chick actually enjoys the way she dresses with no care and it not being something to impress people and use for financial gain but most times it is. Same for guys, they have all this "swag" and feed off that cool factor and think of themselves as someone with sweet skills. Most of the time, they're train wrecking like crazy lol
Code:E 1:50 AM - 27 February, 2014
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I think there's a point of looking put together and maybe dressing up a bit, then there's having your boobs and ass falling out of skimpy clothes.
Or if you a guy, you're wearing a mouse head.
Code:E 1:52 AM - 27 February, 2014
Honestly I can't knock anyone for using any tool they have to further their career and to gain new opportunities.
 6 2:39 AM - 27 February, 2014
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Man or Woman. What's wrong with looking nice and/or appealing when you go play?


I think there's a point of looking put together and maybe dressing up a bit, then there's having your boobs and ass falling out of skimpy clothes. Maybe there's a rare chance that a chick actually enjoys the way she dresses with no care and it not being something to impress people and use for financial gain but most times it is. Same for guys, they have all this "swag" and feed off that cool factor and think of themselves as someone with sweet skills. Most of the time, they're train wrecking like crazy lol


Ain't this the truth.

nm
hologram 4:16 AM - 27 February, 2014
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Man or Woman. What's wrong with looking nice and/or appealing when you go play?


I think there's a point of looking put together and maybe dressing up a bit, then there's having your boobs and ass falling out of skimpy clothes. Maybe there's a rare chance that a chick actually enjoys the way she dresses with no care and it not being something to impress people and use for financial gain but most times it is. Same for guys, they have all this "swag" and feed off that cool factor and think of themselves as someone with sweet skills. Most of the time, they're train wrecking like crazy lol


Yep.
I look at it this way. All about presentation to get in the door. Skillz to keep you there.
I'm not mad at anyone for using any tool they can as long as they have the respect for the their art/craft to do it right. I bought a bottle to have a good time with my friends and NOT hear TRAIN Wrecks.
HighGrade562 4:43 AM - 27 February, 2014
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she's from my hometown. Never heard her DJ, but she definitely went the boob route...


she's kinda hot tho, yea she's selling sex but who isnt these days. Hell I changed my image to be a little more appealing to females since appealing to DJs dont really pay the bills. Got a hair cut took some new fotos getting my rico suave on...lol anyways. Her music isnt bad for the clubby type bubbly girls. She was in D.C last summer at the POV she had a decent set too.

Fuck a haircut and all that GQ shit!
Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ Irv 2:31 PM - 27 February, 2014
Unless a DJ can actually DJ I consider him/her a gimmick. When I am not looking at DJ the music, mixing, and scratching should be on point and this applies to dudes as well. If you spend more time getting ready (makeup clothes etc) than getting ready (songs, practicing new blends and honing your skills) you are a gimmick.
 6 2:49 PM - 27 February, 2014
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Unless a DJ can actually DJ I consider him/her a gimmick. When I am not looking at DJ the music, mixing, and scratching should be on point and this applies to dudes as well. If you spend more time getting ready (makeup clothes etc) than getting ready (songs, practicing new blends and honing your skills) you are a gimmick.


Definitely

nm
DJ Irv 2:51 PM - 27 February, 2014
@DjNicole Listening to your mix on MixCloud I would not apply gimmick to your dj'ing at all. Keep up the good work.

Just note some hard working skilled not so pretty/fashionable DJs feel some type of way when losing gigs to pretty DJs that can't actually DJ. That's really I have to say on the matter.
hologram 5:15 PM - 27 February, 2014
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@DjNicole Listening to your mix on MixCloud I would not apply gimmick to your dj'ing at all. Keep up the good work.

Just note some hard working skilled not so pretty/fashionable DJs feel some type of way when losing gigs to pretty DJs that can't actually DJ. That's really I have to say on the matter.


Yes this sucks. It seems in this world looks is first , talent later. Not new for the music industry though.
the_black_one 12:44 AM - 28 February, 2014
Where is the pussy magnet????


-Borad


nm nh
DjNicole 2:56 AM - 2 March, 2014
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@DjNicole Listening to your mix on MixCloud I would not apply gimmick to your dj'ing at all. Keep up the good work.

Just note some hard working skilled not so pretty/fashionable DJs feel some type of way when losing gigs to pretty DJs that can't actually DJ. That's really I have to say on the matter.


Appreciate it guys, still honing my skills and have a long road ahead of me but I definitely don't want to take any cheap shortcuts along the way. Its a pretty big slap in the face when the looks first DJs get gigs more than I do but if they don't have skill I only question why people would hire someone without talent other than I just look past it.
hologram 10:21 AM - 2 March, 2014
Looks may get you in the door but only talent will keep you there in the long run.
DjNicole 5:42 AM - 3 March, 2014
By the way, it's photos like these that made me strike up the conversation in the first place. Just looking at it there's just so much to say I don't even know where to start...

farm7.staticflickr.com

www.djcolleenshannon.com
 6 6:02 AM - 3 March, 2014
Yeah. Those pictures tell the truth... About how fake they are and not really about DJing.

nm
hologram 3:39 PM - 3 March, 2014
Only problem is she was the most requested by patrons to return DJ for PURE in LAs vegas for a long time. Makes me wonder if it was rigged like the ones with hundreds of thousands of listens after their song has been up for 5 minutes.
 6 4:07 PM - 3 March, 2014
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Only problem is she was the most requested by patrons to return DJ for PURE in LAs vegas for a long time. Makes me wonder if it was rigged like the ones with hundreds of thousands of listens after their song has been up for 5 minutes.


Of course it was rigged. Think about it. Las Vegas doesn't have regulars like other places do.

nm
Mr. Goodkat 6:47 PM - 3 March, 2014
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Only problem is she was the most requested by patrons to return DJ for PURE in LAs vegas for a long time. Makes me wonder if it was rigged like the ones with hundreds of thousands of listens after their song has been up for 5 minutes.


Of course it was rigged. Think about it. Las Vegas doesn't have regulars like other places do.

nm


yeah, somebody in the chain of command was banging her or knew her manager. its vegas, nothing is real. except that its the most awful place in the world.
hologram 9:37 AM - 4 March, 2014
Haha you all know it so well.
Sezzo 9:42 AM - 4 March, 2014
Hi

I'm in a really different position to the two other brave females that have posted here as I'm just starting out (rap/hip hop/new orleans bounce) in a medium sized capital city in Australia ha. But I've noticed a few things in the last seven months.

Looking good can open a lot of doors for anyone. However, I feel like because the DJ world (club owners/other DJs and their crews etc) is primarily male heterosexual dominated - sex appeal can be used as a currency for female DJs in exchange for inclusion/gigs. Though, I think it'd be hard for anyone to say no to these opportunities, especially as a beginner. I don't have my boobs hanging out but I actually really admire fashion/design and I'd be kidding myself if I didn't know that the way I look has catalysed much for me wrt DJing (becoming part of a crew, getting gigs, getting other DJ guys to help me out). My look tends to be a balance of the feminine/masculine and I feel comfortable with that.

But it's also been tough at times. For example, once or twice this has happened, when a guy (DJ usually) realises he's been "friendzoned" he will basically cut you off. It's hard because I don't actively go out and try to be a tease or anything - I'm just trying to do my thing and they show interest in my djing, next minute he's helping me out and I really need it/appreciate it, but after a while he'll realise nothing is going to happen then I'm effectively blocked from whatever it is he's involved in (party night/crew/teaching skill). Like I said previously - I'm just starting out and I really want to get better so this whole friendzone business is really starting to get me down. It's disheartening/disappointing because I genuinely love music and dancing and want to become a good dj but I need help.

So, overall, I feel profoundly ambivalent. Guys run the industry and you're a chick so it can open many doors, but can also be a real blocker/exclusion factor when certain guys don't get what they want.

I'm still learning the ropes but this early on I've decided it's probably wiser to be independent and not depend on guys (or anyone) but yourself - get your own gear, learn how to set it up on your own, and learn to mix well. (I'm still working on all of this haha but I am poor and so am working two jobs on top of study to get it all).

In a nutshell - I'm learning that skill should come first, looks do help but (even if you're not leading him on at all) it might backfire, and most of all don't compromise yourself or your values and HAVE FUN BECAUSE WHY DO IT IF YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING IT!

If anyone (boy or girl!) has any hints for me as a sorry novice please don't hesitate to comment! Or constructive criticisms - I really love constructive criticisms.

Cheers mates
DJ Remy USA 10:42 AM - 4 March, 2014
^^^^

And that there is the game 100%.
Sezzo 11:00 AM - 4 March, 2014
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And that there is the game 100%.


Hey sorry, I think I'm a bit too Australian to get what you mean exactly.
Laz219 11:01 AM - 4 March, 2014
Don't think it has anything to do with being Australian,
You just summed up the industry in a single post.
Sezzo 11:04 AM - 4 March, 2014
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Don't think it has anything to do with being Australian,
You just summed up the industry in a single post.


Ohhhhh right I getcha. Jeez.
Dj Shamann 11:41 AM - 4 March, 2014
Sezzo, we can be a bunch of assholes around here, but when you cut through the hazing, misquotes and "you DJ so bad jokes" there is a lot of knowledge to be had floating around these boards.

If you've got thick skin, stick around, get to know the joint and make friends with people around here, you'll have to worry less about the friend zone since most of us are in a different time zone.

As long as your straight up, most people here will be too, act like an idiot or show disrespect to the process, you get called out, plain and simple.

There are two kinds of noobies on these boards.

1.Those who show up, start a dozen threads and expect everything to be given to them without offering anything in return. They usually feel entitled and will often throw a tantrum when they don't like what they hear.

2.Those who get involved in the conversation, and express a willingness to learn while showing respect to the fundamentals.

Right now you're looking like the second DJ, so outside of the odd "tits or GTFO" comments, you'll get some good responses.
Dj Shamann 11:44 AM - 4 March, 2014
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2.Those who get involved in the conversation, and express a willingness to learn while showing respect to the fundamentals. They understand constructive criticism (or at least try to)
Sezzo 12:15 PM - 4 March, 2014
Hey thanks for the responses.

One thing I will add for any other female DJs starting up out there is that the only way I've worked out how to deal with the resentfully friendzoned (I hate that term but for lack of a better word) isn't to get all indignant/angered, but to act like nothing is wrong. Be pleasant and respectful. This route seems safest as well because they might not actually be cutting you off but might possibly be embarassed and avoidant after rejection - a completely understandable human response. But even if they are cutting you off - it's better to be nice because they can come around after a while.

NB: This also applies not only for the "friendzoned" but for guys you're professionally associated with but you've decided to become personally involved and maybe things didn't work out.
 6 2:27 PM - 4 March, 2014
Sezzo,

Use all the sources currently available to learn what you need. You're lucky nowadays there is youtube tutorials and forums like this one. A lot of us didn't have it this easy - so stick around and become a sponge. Ask questions, but also don't expect anything to be handed down to you just because you're a girl. - I'm not saying you are. Just a general piece of advice.

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I personally believe that it's okay to use your looks to get ahead in the DJ game but skills should come first regardless so you can be taken seriously.

nm
Jumbo Boogie 3:52 PM - 4 March, 2014
if any female dj is anywhere near this little girl
Watchwww.youtube.com

then gender won't even matter

as for the whole friendzone ordeal...just be blunt and upfront in the beginning. don't let the poor sap play the fool knowing they got a thing for you...because then the blame is on you...but if they know from the beginning and stick around and eventually expect something to happen..then it's on them.
PopRoXxX 6:04 PM - 14 March, 2014
They just had a girl "Red Bull" DJ at Universal this last Saturday. The EXACT depiction of why most jocks look down on girl jocks. Selling the boob route. This girl came in, HUGE boobs, sparkly headphones and gave HERSELF a 2 minute talking intro on the mic with NO music. Then proceeded to train wreck EVERY mix while pushing almost EVERY patron out the front doors. Both main managers were holding the doors open cause so many people were non-stop leaving. Song selection = wack. Mixing = completely wack. Showmanship (Show-womanship) = BIG BOOBS and sparkly headphones with no skill or technique. Smh.

BIG SORRY to all the chicas actually doing the DAMN thing out there! Keep your head up and game strong. Eventually people (patrons) will get past the big boobs and notice how $#iT these clowns are. This is when your hard work will show! Just look at Annalyze
Miss H.E.R. 4:04 PM - 26 November, 2014
So I am a year and some change late to this discussion, but I am going to chime in anyway! Just the other day another female DJ and I were talking about this very subject. Basically the consensus that we came up with is that if you don't have "the girls" spilling out of your top, or clothing that barely covers the "under cheek", getting gigs on top of gigs is not something that will happen for us... no matter how good we are technically! Because the female DJs that are doing that (as most that have already echoed) are simply not that good! Now I am not going to sit here and act like I am the illest female that touched the turntables, because I'm not! But I am confident enough to say (and this is my opinion) that I am better than most of Thirst-Trap female DJs out here getting the gigs!

Do I want more gigs??? No question! Am I going to start showing more skin to get them...HECK NO! I gotta stay true to myself. I want to be respected and referred to as a dope DJ...PERIOD! I've been told over and over again that BRANDING plays a huge part in getting you to the next level, so I am about to go all in! Hopefully one day...you will hear about me.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:32 PM - 26 November, 2014
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So I am a year and some change late to this discussion, but I am going to chime in anyway! Just the other day another female DJ and I were talking about this very subject. Basically the consensus that we came up with is that if you don't have "the girls" spilling out of your top, or clothing that barely covers the "under cheek", getting gigs on top of gigs is not something that will happen for us... no matter how good we are technically! Because the female DJs that are doing that (as most that have already echoed) are simply not that good! Now I am not going to sit here and act like I am the illest female that touched the turntables, because I'm not! But I am confident enough to say (and this is my opinion) that I am better than most of Thirst-Trap female DJs out here getting the gigs!

Do I want more gigs??? No question! Am I going to start showing more skin to get them...HECK NO! I gotta stay true to myself. I want to be respected and referred to as a dope DJ...PERIOD! I've been told over and over again that BRANDING plays a huge part in getting you to the next level, so I am about to go all in! Hopefully one day...you will hear about me.

lol....DJ Period
DJ Irv 5:04 PM - 26 November, 2014
And this is not gender specific. It's always going to be hard to be respected as a DJ if you can't actually DJ.
Mr. Goodkat 8:10 PM - 26 November, 2014
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lol
d:raf 9:54 PM - 26 November, 2014
Related... don't know how long this'll stay up there or if any of ya'll can see it 'cause it's a facebook video link, but... www.facebook.com
d:raf 9:55 PM - 26 November, 2014
Oh yeah... NSFW^^
phonze 10:25 PM - 26 November, 2014
lol unbelievable
DJ Dac 12:54 AM - 5 December, 2014
I love this forum, after all these years none of us has grown up a bit
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:08 AM - 5 December, 2014
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I love this forum, after all these years none of us has grown up a bit

*have
DJ Dac 11:35 PM - 17 December, 2014
^exactly...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:48 AM - 20 December, 2014
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Am I going to start showing more skin to get them...HECK NO! I gotta stay true to myself. I want to be respected....blah..blah..blah..


You should leave that up to us DJ's to decide... :)

Please post some High Resolution jawns of you in nothing but a Butter Rug, and we'll gladly help you advance your career...

(Hides pudding pop)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 AM - 20 December, 2014
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Oh yeah... NSFW^^


>:-(
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 AM - 20 December, 2014
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I love this forum, after all these years none of us has grown up a bit


lol, cats stuck in time...
DJ Art Pumpin Payne 2:48 PM - 22 December, 2014
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Please post some High Resolution jawns of you in nothing but a Butter Rug, and we'll gladly help you advance your career...

(Hides pudding pop)


ROTFL... but +1 - gonna start calling you "Ashy Bill in the patchwork robe"
sotosoul 8:41 AM - 23 February, 2017
I'd say there are two main categories of 'female DJs': 1) The show DJ, and 2) the actual DJ. The female show DJ is a person who's dressed provocatively/deliberately sexy and has no DJ skills, it's within the same category as the soft strip-show without the striping. The second category refers to regular DJs who happen to be women.

Judging from my experience, I'd say it's significantly easier for any of these types to get a gig than a male DJ because they are not common. What do you think?
hologram 10:19 PM - 24 February, 2017
interesting reversal of roles eh?
I remember when a female DJ had to be three times as good as male DJ just to get herd.
ral 9:57 PM - 27 February, 2017
Branded DJs 9:12 PM - 28 November, 2018
There are a lot female DJs london who has the looks and the skills.

www.brandeddjagency.co.uk
Illiment 3:52 PM - 29 November, 2018
female dj, male dj, non binary identifies as a snow cone dj, it's all nonsense. Ppl really want to talk equality, the only common denominator here should be skills. Unfortunately that's not the case. Subpar/trash dj's get a pass based on gender/looks, and nobody calls it out. The skills and dedication and love for the craft should always come first.
Chino 4:39 PM - 29 November, 2018
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Agree 100%!!
TurtleFaceBrownNoser 7:25 PM - 29 November, 2018
Only good looking girl DJ's with large boobs deserve any attention.

What's that one girls name with the great rack? She has done some recent Serato postings on Insta....