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What kind of footswitch should I get for my TTM57?

DJK 8:19 AM - 1 March, 2006
Ok, I already have my 57 preordered, and I am so excited I could pee, but I was wondering if there is a specific footswitch Rane/Serato recomend. I have seen the NAMM video, and noticed that it was a 3 button switch?

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand the footswitch buttons (along with the mixer ones) can be asigned to do whatever I want correct? So one could tigger samples while I scratch, and one could add an echo to my cuts? Or whatever else I want it to do?

Thanks
Serato, Forum Moderator
Steve W 7:01 AM - 2 March, 2006
We support 1, 2 or 3 pedal foot-switches. It has to have a ΒΌ" plug and be wired to connect Sleeve to Tip for 1 pedal or Sleeve to Tip & Ring for 2 and 3 pedals. The pedal should be momentary, ie non-latching.

Examples of compatible 3-pedal foot-switches are the Digitech models FS-300 and FS3X. I know that Crate and TC Helicon also make 3-pedal foot-switches but I haven't checked them out for compatibility.
DJK 7:25 AM - 2 March, 2006
Thanks alot steve, I will look into all of those. Also, can you elaborate on my second question about asigning controls?

Thanks Alot!
Serato, Forum Moderator
Steve W 9:02 AM - 2 March, 2006
Yes the pedals can be user-assigned to a long list of functions, ie just about anything for which there is an on-screen button or key stroke.

Regarding the controls on the mixer surface itself, there are four groups of control assignments that can be selected. The first three can be modified by the user. The fourth is the effect group and how the controls work depend on which effect is selected. We are not planning to make the effect controls user configurable.

ps It looks like the TC pedal has a much better chance of being compatible than the Crate one. The Crate CFS3 seems to be a 2-pedal and a 1-pedal foot-switch sharing a box, plus because it is for controlling a guitar amp it probably latches.
DJK 9:30 AM - 2 March, 2006
Awesome, thanks so much for your help! Now I am REALLY jonesin' for my mixer!
Alkatrazz 10:23 AM - 2 March, 2006
me too
Freedom 12:43 PM - 2 March, 2006
Im a look into my midi footswith with quater inch also Ill look at the tip...

Once the foot switch is intergrated its on...

I hope the foot switch latency is dead on..

Thanks Steve keep up the good work.
Serato, Forum Moderator
Sam 9:08 PM - 2 March, 2006
We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.
DJK 3:21 AM - 3 March, 2006
I love you guys.
DJ MDX 5:59 AM - 3 March, 2006
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.



Damn, it just gets better and better!!!!
Dj Ace 8:47 PM - 12 March, 2006
My new name is DJ Serato!!!
click 5:36 AM - 13 March, 2006
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My new name is DJ Serato!!!


After what's gone on around here in the past few weeks, I would wait a month or two before making that claim.... lol
DJ XspinSIVE 5:38 AM - 13 March, 2006
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My new name is DJ Serato!!!


After what's gone on around here in the past few weeks, I would wait a month or two before making that claim.... lol


lol
Dj Ace 7:15 AM - 20 March, 2006
LOL
Spider 9:58 AM - 20 March, 2006
foot switch?!?!?! I didn't even know about that.. so we'll be able to use effects with the foot switch or loop in relative??? crazy
DJK 12:53 AM - 21 March, 2006
The footswitch will be asignable to whatever you want from what I understand.
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 10:39 AM - 21 March, 2006
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The footswitch will be asignable to whatever you want from what I understand.
can i link it to tha trap door infront of my gear, so when people come up to me (to request a song or ask to turn down tha bass) while i'm frantically busy trying to match the beats before the break comes up....
DJK 4:08 AM - 22 March, 2006
Only if you have a midi trap door and use a midi footswitch, along with punjil sticks, tigers, and this: cgi.ebay.com

I also recomend getting a rope and pulley, just incase. . . you know how midi and homemade ebay things are. . .
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 3:42 PM - 22 March, 2006
goodone DJK....that item is like the legend joke of tha forum ... chirplare status yo :)
XARIUSOUND 1:38 AM - 26 March, 2006
is the footswitch compatible without the ttm 57? say perhaps for an original SSLv1.5 and a ttm56?
DJK 6:21 AM - 26 March, 2006
I doubt it, where you gonna plug it in?
tim 6:54 PM - 7 May, 2006
I'm sure i probably already know the answer to this question but...

is there such a pedal that would be compatable with ssl that doesn't just toggle (ie. loop on/loop off) but instead covers a degree of adjustment.. erm, like an accelerator pedal in a car. you could then control faders or the flexfx wet/dry balance with such a pedal.

?
DJK 6:58 PM - 7 May, 2006
There are pedals like that, they are called expression pedals, but I don't think SSL is compatible, nor could I think of very many things I would want to do with it that SSL does. . .

I know alot of other equipment with similar funtionality, maybe if you elaborate on what you are trying to do, I can point you in the right direction?
DJK 3:55 AM - 9 May, 2006
Tim, look into the boss FV-50H/-50L or FV-300L. The don't integrate into ttm57 or ssl funtions, but you could use it for any anolog audio, like fading in a sampler on your aux line, or run on your efx loop to control wet/dry with you foot. . .
tim 6:58 PM - 10 May, 2006
Hey djk,

yeh controlling the wet/dry balance is what i'd be most interested in..

i don't totally understand how those pedals would be able to do this..

i mean i'd like to be able to set up a high pass filter as an effect and then whilst scratching use a pedal to fade into this effect or fade into a delay or reverb or something, you know what i mean?

but if its not gonna happen than fair enoguh its not the end of the world
nobspangle 7:16 PM - 10 May, 2006
tim, to do this you would need an external effects unit that can accept an expression pedal. The FV-300 DJK mentioned can be used as an expression pedal.
You won't be able to control the TTM57 with a pedal like this. The mixer will only take a 1,2 or 3 pedal momentary switch pedal.
tim 5:42 PM - 11 May, 2006
cheers guys for the help, its not too much of a worry now anyway as i've created myself a secondary set of arms which can take care of all extra mixer features as well as allowing me to walk like a crab.
romerom 7:20 PM - 11 May, 2006
i gave myself an extra schlong so i can poke my girl in the vag and the booty at the same time
DJ MDX 11:42 PM - 12 May, 2006
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


Anymore news on the progress for this?

Thanks in advance.
DJK 1:54 AM - 13 May, 2006
They said in another thread that they are no longer going to do it.
Idlemind1999 5:19 PM - 30 May, 2006
I ended up getting the TC Footswitch and it works fine so far...

except if you are a klutz like me and keep kicking it by accident.

samash.com

Acutally I need to post a video. I did find one thing that i need to investigate more. I was going a little overboard on the looping using the pedal, (looping in and out on the 8bar, 4bar, 2bar and even 1bar points) and pressing it too fast in in succession caused this siren (horn) sound and the only wat to get it to stop was to exit the loop point and enter it again.

Like I said, I need to test to figure out where it came from, but it happened 3 times in a row.
DJK 10:37 PM - 30 May, 2006
You made a loop that was only fractions of a second long.

I got the digitech fs3x, and it works great. It also work on my digitech loop pedal, so I am gonna get a cheap 1 button to use on my 57 when the digitech is in the loop pedal, that way I can still control the 57.
Idlemind1999 2:18 PM - 31 May, 2006
That makes perfect sense... I guess the siren sound was just a really short loop....
wakka 2:13 AM - 4 June, 2006
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


I love Serato.
DJK 6:26 AM - 4 June, 2006
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They said in another thread that they are no longer going to do it.
nobspangle 8:52 AM - 4 June, 2006
I thought they weren't going to bother making a footswitch as the research and development costs, coupled with manufacturing would make it far more expensive than the competing models which are readily available and work fine.
wakka 4:12 AM - 5 June, 2006
Noooo, it's not that i don't trust other footswitch models but if there was a SSL footswitch, then there would be an endless amount of possibilities after the constant firmwire upgrades. The thing i truly like about Serato is that the hardware doesn't get outdated because the software consistently gets upgraded. Nahmean?
DJK 5:33 AM - 5 June, 2006
The footswitch is a hardware control, and has nothing to do with firm or soft updates. It's whole purpose is to send commands to the software. It's like saying that you want B1,B2,B3 on the 57 control upgradeable, but just like the footswitch they allready are, due to the fact that they are only triggers.
DJ Yaz 6:06 AM - 5 June, 2006
I bought a Digitech FS3X, it has worked fine for me so far. I would recommend getting a right angle 1/4" connector though because it can stick out a bit otherwise and get in the way.
DJK 10:36 AM - 5 June, 2006
I use the same switch, and it is solid. I am actually going to move my footswitch jack, probably to the back if I can fit it. I don't know why they put it on the fron in the first place, the headphone plug is bad enough...
Idlemind1999 1:04 PM - 5 June, 2006
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I bought a Digitech FS3X, it has worked fine for me so far. I would recommend getting a right angle 1/4" connector though because it can stick out a bit otherwise and get in the way.


I have always done this, for Headphones, outputs, Flex FX and now I'm trying to find the right one for the foot switch, its good so it doesnt stick out and also (headphones) if you mistakenly walk away with the headphones on your neck, the extra mobility comes in handy.
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 9:41 PM - 5 June, 2006
What kind of footspray should I get for my TTM57
Idlemind1999 1:02 AM - 6 June, 2006
Goldbond works great for me.... unless you mean switch... :O
wakka 2:42 AM - 6 June, 2006
BOOM! Tough actin Tinactin!!
Thundercat 1:42 AM - 29 June, 2006
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


Any news on this front? What was the footswitch they were using at Remix NY?
DJK 5:28 AM - 29 June, 2006
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They said in another thread that they are no longer going to do it.
Thundercat 10:23 AM - 29 June, 2006
Thanks DJK, my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be. :)
Idlemind1999 4:11 PM - 29 June, 2006
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


Any news on this front? What was the footswitch they were using at Remix NY?


No one was usin a foot switch at Remix.. But I brought my own... :O
skinnyguy 6:00 PM - 29 June, 2006
i just got the tc helicon switch too. works like it should so far.
s42000 7:11 PM - 29 June, 2006
I wonder if there are any handheld "footswitches" ....
Idlemind1999 7:38 PM - 29 June, 2006
maybe... but what is someone steps on your hand while you are holding it?? :P
s42000 8:04 PM - 29 June, 2006
^^ LOL ...
I plan to have this on a short cable right next to the mixer.
I was thinking a small tiny handswitch ..
DJK 8:33 PM - 29 June, 2006
Why?
Thundercat 8:50 PM - 29 June, 2006
Idlemid, was that your switch they hooked up for a bit on Sunday? When Boo was doing the footswitch loop demo for Neil Armstrong?
nobspangle 8:59 PM - 29 June, 2006
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I wonder if there are any handheld "footswitches" ....

You could make your own, I made my own footswitch. It's not great because the case I used is too big, but a handswitch would be easy.
s42000 3:47 PM - 30 June, 2006
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Why?


The dexterity in my hands is way much more than my feet could ever muster .... plus I want to be able to loop on the fly without having to go to the program group/looping menu.
Idlemind1999 3:57 PM - 30 June, 2006
you might have to make one or modify a foot switch. The footswitch buttons are kinda hard to press unless you are using a foot or your finger (with some shoulder behind it)
DJK 1:30 AM - 1 July, 2006
hmmmm I think that kinda defeats the purpose, but to each his own...
Idlemind1999 12:34 PM - 1 July, 2006
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Idlemid, was that your switch they hooked up for a bit on Sunday? When Boo was doing the footswitch loop demo for Neil Armstrong?


It migh have been, I left it there cause i didnt want to lug it around. I used it during the Jean Grae thing
Idlemind1999 12:35 PM - 1 July, 2006
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hmmmm I think that kinda defeats the purpose, but to each his own...



Seems like too much work for me, personally, but hey
ABM 4:10 PM - 7 July, 2006
@s4200 - i just bought a digitech gnxfc (the one with the big square buttons). i think if you wanted to you could put this on the table and tap/slap/punch these buttons. they are large, the size of a white castle burger. if you want, i can measure the buttons and try using it as a hand pedal. let me know...
Idlemind1999 4:26 PM - 7 July, 2006
give it a shot. Do you have a link for the switch? I'd like to see it. Mine has the tiny silver circle buttons (3) and you cant press them by accident thats for sure and hardly with your hand at all.
skinnyguy 6:41 PM - 7 July, 2006
get a hand pedal built with the old Street Fighter arcade buttons
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 7:29 PM - 7 July, 2006
aaaaaddooooookin!
nobspangle 7:33 PM - 7 July, 2006
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get a hand pedal built with the old Street Fighter arcade buttons

That's a good idea,

get an old joystick, something like this www.uncrate.com then just wire the buttons to a lead with a TRS jack plug on the end.
ABM 4:29 AM - 8 July, 2006
@Idlemind1999 www.digitech.com

yo the arcade button idea is dope. :-)
DJ Kid Stretch 4:52 PM - 1 April, 2007
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


any news on this??? i'm thinking of buying a pedal, should i wait?
rhythmunderground 1:25 AM - 2 April, 2007
they abandoned that project i think because there are so many cheap ones that work great.
DJ Kid Stretch 7:10 AM - 2 April, 2007
for real? can a serato mod confirm this? i'll go for the DIGITECH FS 300, seems nice!!!
nobspangle 7:11 AM - 2 April, 2007
The only thing Serato could improve on in a footswitch is labelling the switches 1,2,3 so that they match the software. I don't think it's worth it for them, the FS300 works great for me.
DJ Kid Stretch 7:40 AM - 2 April, 2007
does the FS300 need an external power supply?
and what can you actually control with the footswitch?
i was thinking of controlling the left and right flex effects.
DJK 8:06 AM - 2 April, 2007
No power supply need for the digitech, and to me it is almost usless right now....

scratchlive.net
bumpsdick 1:52 PM - 6 April, 2007
I got a TC-Helicon Switch-3 recently. No complaints. $50 from Sam Ash store.
Sonar 8:50 PM - 1 April, 2008
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I got a TC-Helicon Switch-3 recently. No complaints. $50 from Sam Ash store.


I've got the same switch last night and I can't seem to get it to work correctly. Button one starts loop, that's fine. Button 2 does nothing and Button 3 jumps it to whatever loop is highlighed. I just want to turn the loop on and off. MIDI has not helped either. Does anyone have a suggestion with turning the loop on or off just using a footswitch?
DJ-A 6:11 PM - 22 August, 2008
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We are looking into getting our own foot switch manufactured so that we can make it a perfect match with the 57. I'll post more news as soon as it comes to hand.


how's that coming?